Hehe - that mobile phone thing is quite funny actually. If it's true - what a plonker
To be honest though, if somebody did that to me, I would be rather upset for having my right to privacy compromised.
i have just learnt form an ex jw friend of mine that one of our aquaintances who hasnt been to meetings for about 2 years has been announced as voluntarily dissassociating himself.
this is totally untrue an elder on his own went round to enquire about a moral issue with him and no more was heard no judicial or anything.
our aquaintance has rang the elder tonight after finding out about the announcement without ever being told it was going to happen.
Hehe - that mobile phone thing is quite funny actually. If it's true - what a plonker
To be honest though, if somebody did that to me, I would be rather upset for having my right to privacy compromised.
the large horn on the goat is the first king of greece (8:21), obviously alexander the great.
after his death, alexander?s kingdom was divided among four of his generals (8:22).
the high priest), and further causes the daily sacrifices to cease, and the sanctuary to be defiled (8:11).
Well, I printed out the information on that guys website about the historical accuracy of the book of Daniel and was fairly entertained by his spin on events based around secular reasoning.
I remembered after a while that the society and indeed other Christian groups claim that the Bible account only refers to empires that had a direct influence upon the nation of Israel.
So, it is still a matter of either believing 100% in the objective reality that has been defined for us through archeology or choosing to believe in the spiritual and distinctly esoteric explanation offered by Bible groups:
http://home.gwi.net/~maxswan/world_empires_past_and_future_.htm
To me, it's all rather confusing. Sometimes I lack trust in either account and simply prefer ignorance.
There are lots of important things. I was stating that the physical body isn't the most important thing IMO
Hmm... well, it is easy to get crossed lines and this is an area that requires many hours of conversation. So I'll quit due to lack of energy to type out my thoughts.
I'm more than willing to hear your perspective, though.
Discernment requires a fine degree of judgement. As a Christian, is it not true that one is meant to discern right from wrong in terms of personal conduct?
Therefore by extention, when viewing others one automatically casts a judgement based around ones own understanding of what is right and wrong.
If one is to move wisely within this life and choose ones companions with care, then judgement is surely necessary?
Judgement obviously needs to be tempered with compassion though, so at times it is necessary to use etiquette and diplomacy with others, so as not to trample upon feelings and individual rights.
Judgement is part of divine nature and therefore if we reflect divine nature, we judge.
Sirona
I wouldn't quite go that far.
Fair enough.
What is important to you?
Sirona said:Some would have us sitting meditating for hours upon hours every day, refusing to step on a bug and literally ignoring earthly things as much as possible. That IMHO couldn't be a sadder existence.
I agree with you Sirona. I have several acquaintances who are pressing themselves in this direction, based around primarily Eastern dogma of the soul, combined with a 'Rudolf Steiner' vision of the inside person being a representation of the outer realities.
Balance is needed and the recognition that we are physical beings foremost. If we starve, we die, so much for the inner self being of primary importance.
A set of guiding principles and inner vision coupled with a pragmatic and objective attitude is the key.
As a friend said to me recently - "we are a toilet with wings"
LittleToe:
Christians are required to judge. To say otherwise is nonsense IMO.
the great pyramid awaits thee.
click on the following link and you'll learn the history of pyramidology, including russell's involvement.
http://www.greatdreams.com/pyramid.htm
Doesn't mean he wasn't a nice guy, but he was still a charlatan.
Absolutely. I wonder whether he was simply deluded concerning the chronology?
let's assume that there is a creator of life who gots things started eons ago.
that's my persuasion, although i am not actively religious.. one major problem with belief in a creator is that he/she/it is supposed to be benevolent, loving and caring.
many evangelical christians feel he has helped them personally in various ways, emotionally, even financially.
Armageddon is your answer in terms of a Bible based belief system
That is when God really stops pulling the punches and sends in Christ to sort things out (you know that already though).
You have to remember dear hearts that the God of the Bible is supposed to be relatively passive at the moment.
Come on now - think damn you! There is no need for these threads
(that scripture in Isaiah is interesting)
the great pyramid awaits thee.
click on the following link and you'll learn the history of pyramidology, including russell's involvement.
http://www.greatdreams.com/pyramid.htm
Thanks for the link. It is a well written essay.
Russell was at least a man with imagination and was obviously a man who dabbled in the area of occult science, where many of his esteemed peers minds lay within that same time period.
The late 19th century is fascinating and produced many flamboyant characters.
For all of his faults, I quite like the character of C.T. Russell.
setting aside dogma, taking the comments of augustine to a deeper level ("unity in what is essential.
freedom in what is not essential.
charity in everything"), i'd like to share an observation.. i don't know if i can articulate it properly, and i know it'll open me up for some abuse, but so be it.
seem to gloss over the fact that a relationship is the choice of not one party, but two, even if one of the "people" in the relationship is God.
Well, we do not really have a choice (if you do believe that God is all, in all, through all etc) - we have a relationship regardless. Our life if you choose to believe, is intimately bound to God, so the relationship is there already.
Every pleasure one takes from life, is due to God. Even if hedonism is your way, that way is through the grace of God.
The word relationship can denote a connection with another. So, if you believe that God is the source of all life and we collectively believe that we have life within us, then obviously there is a relationship.